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Re: Questions
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2022, 11:22:41 AM »
(Combat Training only affects DT and the bonus for non-ranked skills, it does not affect skills with ranks).
If I have a +3NPB and gain 1 rank in a skill, then it goes to +1 instead of being +3 right?


technically correct, BUT, if you wanted to be a nice GM

Allow them to use the higher of NPB or ranks in the skill....

as  they do not actually lose what they already know from the other skills


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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2022, 11:25:48 AM »
technically correct, BUT, if you wanted to be a nice GM

Allow them to use the higher of NPB or ranks in the skill....

as  they do not actually lose what they already know from the other skills

Cool, I was thinking on doing that.
I'm not a native English speaker, sorry for any error.

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2022, 05:30:56 PM »

If I have a combat skill with 12 ranks:
-Mayor Proficiency: +12 (equal to skill rank)
-Minor Proficiency: +4 (+1e/3)
-No Proficiency: +2 (+1e/5)
-Other combat Skills and DT:
--No Combat Training: +0
--Combat Training I: +2 (+1e/5)
--Combat Training II: +3 (+1e/4)


I just realized something:
A character with Combat II will have a +1e/5 ranks when using the skill w/out proficiency
The same character will have a +1e/4 ranks on skills with no ranks.
So:
Blades (Short) 12 ranks
With Short Blades (proficiency): +12
With Blades non-proficiency: +2 (12/5)
With Blades minor proficiency:  +4 (12/3)
With other combat skills: +3 (12/4)

The character will be better with non-proficient weapons outside of his skill than with non-proficient weapons inside of the skill...
Should it be made that the NPB also works with the same skill?
I'm not a native English speaker, sorry for any error.

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« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2022, 12:00:44 AM »
The character will be better with non-proficient weapons outside of his skill than with non-proficient weapons inside of the skill...
Should it be made that the NPB also works with the same skill?

I would say no, cause then that would be giving a special rule for one skill (and possibly not the same skill for every character.

Also, please keep in mind that you are talking about a situation that is very unlikely to ever happen very often, if ever.

Only Pure Fighter types have Combat Training II, and for a character to get 12 ranks in any skill, they will have to gain 120 CP/XP above their initial 100 XP character. With 120 points, they will most likely have gotten every combat skill possible, or at least all the specialties in their primary base combat skill....

Any system will have little quirks if you go to extremes like this. It is not something to worry about in the long run. Any system can be broken if you are really trying to break it. Novus is deigned o be relatively difficult (not impossible) to break accidentally (which is the bigger worry than somebody breaking it on purpose)

In fact, most of the time, you will likely see the NPB bonus  will be for the modifier to DT. The rest of the time, players will likely only use weapons that they get the full bonus in, unless you give them a situation where it is impossible to use the weapons they have full skill bonus in.