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Mando

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« on: February 09, 2011, 09:12:04 PM »

Your English was perfect from my perspective.  French Canadian?



No, from old France Fidoric is french, too, no?

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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2011, 02:45:11 AM »
I thought it was the green jackets that your troops used to wear.
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imported_Witchking20k

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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2011, 01:25:47 PM »
I thought it referred to the green jackets too.  I hear that term here all the time; I'm in Ottawa, Canada.

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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2011, 08:56:59 PM »
Oh yes, I am French too and used to wearing a green jacket for my job. But I don't know where this nickname comes from.

imported_Raf Blutaxt

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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2011, 10:24:50 PM »
I think it comes from frog eaters, a lot of racial insults are based on dietary prejudices, I think. Krauts and Frogs are just two examples of this.

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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2011, 02:21:48 AM »

I think it comes from frog eaters, a lot of racial insults are based on dietary prejudices, I think. Krauts and Frogs are just two examples of this.



Yes, that's it, as I said http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entente_cordiale

imported_Raf Blutaxt

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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2011, 10:29:31 AM »
So "Fritz" is french for "Kraut"?
I'll have to think about which one I like better

Mando

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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2011, 01:45:24 PM »

So "Fritz" is french for "Kraut"?
I'll have to think about which one I like better



Arf, I certainly must have confused everybody, sorry.

"Fritz" or "Fridolins" or "boches"were the names given to german people during first and second world war, Fritz is a german first name, fridolins and boches, don't know where they come from. These are all considered as insults, and I would never use these to talk about some of my german friends.

"Kraut" in french is "chou" (white cabbage), a vegetable used in making "choucroute" (pickled cabbage) or "sauerkraut" in german. Never heard it used to qualify a german, maybe in Alsace, a french region near germany, twice occupied by germans.



If this "far from original subject" talk annoys moderation, feel free to remove it, sorry for polluting the thread.


imported_Raf Blutaxt

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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2011, 02:07:41 PM »
Hehehe, you didn't confuse me. Kraut is also an english insult for germans, originating with the prejudice that germans eat a lot of cabbage, just like frogs for french people. So "Fritz" is in fact french for "Kraut" in that regard. As for the other terms, Fridolin is also a first name, but not a very common one. For boches I have no idea.

Btw. I am german, but I never heard about Fritz, but when it was mostly used around WW I and II, that is understandable. And we had / have the german translation of frog eaters as an insult for french in german as well.

imported_Witchking20k

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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2011, 04:54:53 PM »
I had only head Fritz as a name....ie Fritz Lieber

imported_Raf Blutaxt

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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2011, 08:32:54 AM »
Fritz is short for Friedrich, an old german name especially popular with prussian royalty and therefore very archetypical for germans during the 19th and beginning of the 20th century. It's fallen almost completely out of use over the last decades though.
And Fritz is also the common name for idiots in german jokes

imported_Witchking20k

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2011, 06:12:02 PM »
Hmmm my computer seems to be on the Fritz....does that make it idiotic royalty?

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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2011, 09:41:33 PM »
Fritz and boche was used during WW1 to describe the German enemy of the time.
Kraut and Jerry was used during WWII to describe the German enemy of the time.
Also, I believe the British used Jerry and the Americans used Kraut during WWII.

I'm a bit of a student of the art and science of war and the history thereof.
But I never did know where the term "frog" for the French came from until this thread..
Thanks!

imported_Raf Blutaxt

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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2011, 10:28:19 PM »
So do you know where Boche and Jerry come from?

imported_Rasyr

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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2011, 11:18:54 PM »
Jerry is relatively easy to figure out.

German = "ger" and man

gerry pronounced jerry