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imported_Rasyr

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What is involved in pagemaking?
« on: January 30, 2012, 08:43:46 PM »
Well, this isn't a normal pagemaking job because I am not actually starting from scratch.

I am starting off with a copy of the pagemaking file that I used for creating version 0.6. I then went through and deleted all of the text frames (excluding the title and credits page), leaving all of the art in place. This also allows me to work with the already existing page layout and borders and stuff, without having to recreate them from scratch.

The first step is to take this and import the manuscript (a Word document). In the past when I have done this, I used an option that told it to fill up the pages (and it would add any needed pages), but this time, since I know that I had added pages here and there within the text, I only expanding the imported text one frame at a time (i.e. half a page at a time), so that way I can add or subtract pages more easily as needed. For example, I ended up adding several page, and Talents will start on page 26 instead of page 24 in version 0.7 (remember, we added to Fate Points, added a new Class, and reworded some other things. Also, I will be looking for orphans and such as I place the text to get things looking nice.

Anyways, once I have all of the text placed (leaving room for art in some places), I will go back and add in that art. In some cases, this will mean futzing with the text again (to again make it look nice).

Next up is the index. To do the index, I have to go through the manuscript page by page and tag the words I want to include, and also give them a hierarchy if they will be under other words. For example if I tag "Sanju", I can have it be on the top level and then I can also tag it as "Combat Style|Sanju" and/or "Combat Skill|Sanju", so there are decisions to be made. This process can take a while to catch everything. Once the index list of tagged words is complete, then I generate the index and pop it into place and format it accordingly. Luckily, I have some styles setup for that already (one of the reasons for using the same base pagemaking file).

Once that is done, then I will generate the Table of Contents (which the software does automatically), and place it and work on formatting it as well. I have only given myself one page for the TOC, so I have to be choosy about what I actually include. Perhaps I should go to 3 columns for the TOC like I do for the index?  I would like to hear your thoughts on that.....

Once the TOC is done, the next step is the page references. All those "see p. xx" have to have numbers put to them, and while that isn't hard, it does take a short bit of time.

Once that is done, then I can distill the PDF, and then add the covers to it.

The next step is to make a copy of the pagemaker file, and then strip out the art and the index. And then distill that (using other options) to create the free version. This process takes maybe an hour in total (to make the free version, once the deluxe version is complete).

Anyways, once the free version is done, I then do the official release!!

(and yes, I took a break from pagemaking do write this -- frequent breaks are a requirement to prevent errors from creeping in....)

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What is involved in pagemaking?
« Reply #1 on: January 30, 2012, 09:07:52 PM »
I find the index easily readable with three columns. I think you should do it for the TOC and save 1 page for material.

imported_Rasyr

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« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 01:59:38 PM »
Okay, it looks like the total page count for Novus is going to be 128 pages (plus 2 pages for the front and back cover). This is actually a good thing since it means that it fits the page signatures of most printers...


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« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 04:34:30 PM »
Pagemaking Update



  • Initial Text Layout Complete - As I mentioned previously, version 0.7 will take up 128 pages in total, not including the covers (front and back).
  • Things Still to do --- Numbered, just to aid in organizing my thoughts...


      [li][b]Recheck Monster Stats[/b] -- I discovered this morning that when I statted up the Ghoul, Vampire Spawn and Werewolf, I had used the wrong Monster spreadsheet. So, I went and found the correct one, and put the new monsters into it, but I think that I may not have updated the manuscript correctly when I was updating all of the Monster entries. So, I will be going back to recheck and fix any errors along the way. Basically, it is the DEF and AB ratings on all of the monster that will need checking.

    1. Place Art -- While I still have all of the art from the previous version in place, I do want to add a little more artwork here and there.

    2. Create Index -- This will take several hours worth of work, at the very least. Due to my having to work the next 3 days, this is going to be slowed down even further. Once I have it made though, it takes less than 30 minutes to place and format it as required.

    3. Table of Contents -- This takes only a fegw seconds to generate, and then about an hour to place, format, and adjust as required.

    4. Page References -- I have to go through and find all of the Page references and  make numbers out of them. It isn't difficult to do, just time consuming. Several hours of work, at the very least.

    5. Rework Cover -- Due to some of the changes made, I need to rework the back cover a bit. That shouldn't take more than an hour or so. (Partially done)

    6. Make Free Version -- This basically entails making a copy of the finished pagemaker file, and then going in and stripping out the index and the artwork, and making sure that none of the pagination changes in doing so.

    7. Distill PDFs -- Then once all of the above is done, I can distill the PDF. That takes about 15-30 minutes in itself. And once that is done, then I have to add in the covers and so forth. And then I can post it for downloading/purchase.

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About time to leave for work today, so no more work on it until this evening. At this point, I am now hoping for a Monday release.

And once that is done, then I have to remake the Character Sheet and Character Sheet Form, and then redo all of the already made sample characters. sigh....
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imported_Rasyr

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« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2012, 12:05:57 AM »
I have updated my last post....

Time to take a break for a while... Then I will go back to working on the page references....

So, a late Monday release is looking very good right now.

imported_Rasyr

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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2012, 04:16:19 PM »
well, page references are done.

I am now going through and making some corrections/fixes that some of the playtesters found so far, and once that is done, then I will finish and get this posted to RPGNow today!!!!

imported_Rasyr

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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2012, 12:09:52 AM »
Well, it looks like version 0.7 of the Open Beta for Novus will be available in an hour or two. I have started the final processing on the Deluxe version and then just have to go through and do the free version and we will be ready to go...